JOURNALIST:
Why didnt you tell the public about your findings at that time?
PETER HÜBNER: Originally, I wanted
to report on this research and the error of modern musical development among
the avant-garde in 1968 during the International Week for Experimental Music
at the Berlin Festival Weeks, where I was invited as a speaker. But the
responsible organiser of the Technical University in Berlin shrank from
such a revelation, and saw the whole congress endangered by it, as avant-garde
participants from all over the world had been misled, and this congress
was taking place to pay tribute to this error. He urgently beseeched me
to choose a different topic.
JOURNALIST: Thus, at this world summit
of music you only talked about three new notation processes
you had developed.
What consequences did this insight into the natural laws of harmony of the
microcosm of music have for your further musical creations?
PETER HÜBNER: During this time
of initial insight into the natural and inevitable tonal and rhythmical
structural developments of the microcosm of music, my rejection of the highly
modern atonal avant-garde of the twelve toners and serial composers, and
my increasingly clear musical orientation towards the natural conditions
of the microcosm of music took place and that, within the context
of my instrumental compositions, as likewise in my electronic work.
JOURNALIST: During this transitional
period, your pieces Faust, Light threads and Electronic
choirs were created.
PETER HÜBNER: These are three electronic
compositions in which I give serious rhythmical and tonal thought to the
microcosm of music and for the electronic choirs even find a sub-microcosm
of music deep inside the microcosm of music.
JOURNALIST: These three compositions
Faust, Light threads, and Electronic choirs
mark a change in your musical work. The place of the sharp, atonal musical
social criticism which is indeed able to destroy structures, but is unable
to strengthen natural structures, are replaced by the first steps to the
conscious, musical resonance with the natural laws of harmony.
The violent revolution is replaced by natural evolution.
PETER HÜBNER: But at the time,
this was not a musical question for me, but an ethical decision.
Whether or not you orientate yourself towards the natural and inevitable
laws of harmony of the microcosm of music and/or biological life, or creation
in your musical work, is today not only a question of musical talent
and must no longer be a question of musical training , but is solely
a question of ones conscience.
Disharmonical music may today also be called deformed music.
A natural composition develops in the natural harmony of the human heart;
from this level of life, it is harmonious in a natural way, and shows natural
proportions in the rhythmical and tonal ratios.
Disharmony is the artificial shift of these natural proportions, and you
can perhaps best compare compositions of this kind with those paintings
by Pablo Picasso, in which the faces are cut up, with one half of the face
looking upwards and the other downwards.
Nobody looks like that, and I dont know anybody who would like to
look like that, either.
The music of the disharmonious avant-gardists has the same sort of effect
on the listener, it cuts through his natural inner harmony, and leads firstly
his inner and then his outer life onto unnatural tracks. The problem is,
that these composers do not hear their music from the inside, as the plain
man would assume a tone creator to do.
The compositions of the new toners are practically fabricated on a drawing-board
theoretically perhaps quite interesting to look at but without
relating to the reality of the musical instruments, to the microcosm of
music, and therefore to natural life: simply unnatural.
If someone heard this music spontaneously inside him, he would feel wretched.
And I wasnt a bit surprised, when a medical professor from Berlin
told me about studies, which demonstrate that musicians who frequently play
such atonal music, are a lot more often ill than their colleagues who mainly
devote themselves to harmonious music.
JOURNALIST: The unnaturally structured
music makes them ill.
PETER HÜBNER: You see, most new
toners dont even have an exact inner idea of the tones and sounds
they have noted by let alone the complete inner hearing experience
of their composition.
The classical composer naturally has the ability to hear his compositions
inside he doesnt need to listen to them on the piano.
When I entered college, I thought that it was normal to have a clear inner
hearing experience of ones own composition, i.e. to experience the
works premiere from the inside.
The fact that has long been scientifically proven is namely, that
the tone of each musical instrument has its own microcosm , is perhaps
made more real to the students at one or the other of the musical institutions,
but it has not been established within education of the inner musical world
of experience, and therefore within the musical world of design of future
musicians and composers.
If a musical inner idea and interpretation is to function, however, then
it must integrate the nature of boundless diversity of the tonal and rhythmical
life of fine tones into a tone.
But what did reality as a rule look like among professors and students of
composition, and what does it look like now: they design the compositions
by means of theoretical contemplations on a drawing-board, or they write
music, which they cannot imagine with their inner hearing, with the help
of a piano.
After that, they wait for a performance, so that they find out, what their
composition sounds like in reality.
This has nothing to do with a natural way of composing.